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Re: seel

uofm said:
had the same thing happen to me 2 weaks ago on my 05 rage. i have the 5 year warranty and yamaha rep said they would not cover it. i bought the parts, bearing and new seel and changed it myself. the dealer i bought the parts from said he would try to get the parts under warranty, but he has gotten no answer yet.
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You need a new dealer or call Yamaha yourself. That's BS, it should be covered. That's not a wearable item.
 
I was stuck in Dubraville once, 2003 , zr800 (d&d 1010) , broke cyl base studs off !
Skidoo dealer Danny Guy , let us work on it in his shop !
We couldn't get a base gasket, or studs so , I bought a used skidoo mxz670 fron Danny , rode it home 600 miles wide open and had a blast ! Then sold it for the same money ! and shipped the sled by transport , it made it home before us ! for only $330.00.
Turned out to a good trip , and saved about 16hr of truck ride to pu sled !!!
 
Please keep us posted on what is the issue with chaincases...does anyone think venting the case would help?..is it pressure causes these to be sucked in?...

dan
 
Re: seel

uofm said:
had the same thing happen to me 2 weaks ago on my 05 rage. i have the 5 year warranty and yamaha rep said they would not cover it. i bought the parts, bearing and new seel and changed it myself. the dealer i bought the parts from said he would try to get the parts under warranty, but he has gotten no answer yet.
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So the extended warranty covers what :o| I strongly suggest you get on the horn to Yamaha customer service. The only things that shouldn't be covered are normal wear items (slider, carbides, brake pads etc.) and things that have been abused. It's then up to them to prove abuse.................
 
rx1pat said:
Where is the seal you are talking about? Is this something different than the gasket? I have been following these posts closely the past couple of weeks. Definitely sounds like this may be a problem. I posted last week but no replies, is the chaincase new for 06? I have read no concerns or problems the past few years for rx1 chaincases. My 03 rx1 had zero problems in 3 years. I have read the other posts and people speculate the problem to be chain case flexing, tensioner bolt cracking, to bad gaskets. It would be nice to have a proper diagnosis of this so the rest of us know what to look for. For the people who are having problems, make sure you contact your dealer to get this on record for a potential recall. I am also curious what type of riding condtions the failure occurred. Was it prolonged wide open throttle running on a lake or easy trail riding etc. I can deal with bad idler wheels, hand grips, but I had to lose a great trip like this poor guy did. If there is a potential problem it would be nice to head it off before it happens.
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It's the seal between the cover and the case.

Mine did the same thing a few weeks ago.

-Moose
 
just read another thread on the vents on backside of dipstick....anyone else done this?...sounds simple enough and maybe the reason pressure is building inside and sucking them in.

dan
 
machzed said:
just read another thread on the vents on backside of dipstick....anyone else done this?...sounds simple enough and maybe the reason pressure is building inside and sucking them in.

dan
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I'm not sure what you are saying about the dipstick?
 
Apex_GT said:
Planned a trip of a lifetime...North Bay-Killarny-Searchmont-WAWA-HURST-Cochrane-New Liskard-North Bay Started out awesome but 30 miles North of Dubreville, yellow light came on and the chain case was blown...Towed back to Dubreville...Now the fun part..Closest Yamaha dealer was 5 hrs away north or south...Nowhere to rent a car...My Car was 14 hrs away.Top gear part is back ordered...Ask yourself...What would you do?? Because if theres no fix to this..It will eventually happen to you...
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Did you check your fluid before every ride?

how often did you adjust your chain?

how did you adjust your chain if you did?

Did you change the fluid?
 
welterracer said:
Apex_GT said:
Planned a trip of a lifetime...North Bay-Killarny-Searchmont-WAWA-HURST-Cochrane-New Liskard-North Bay Started out awesome but 30 miles North of Dubreville, yellow light came on and the chain case was blown...Towed back to Dubreville...Now the fun part..Closest Yamaha dealer was 5 hrs away north or south...Nowhere to rent a car...My Car was 14 hrs away.Top gear part is back ordered...Ask yourself...What would you do?? Because if theres no fix to this..It will eventually happen to you...
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Did you check your fluid before every ride?

Sorry Brian, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS!

how often did you adjust your chain?

how did you adjust your chain if you did?

Did you change the fluid?
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So, are we talking about the gasket, part # 8 on the fiche?
 

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welterracer said:
Did you check your fluid before every ride?

how often did you adjust your chain?

how did you adjust your chain if you did?

Did you change the fluid?
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I took it to the dealer before I left and made sure everything was good if thats what you mean...
 
maddogjeff said:
So, are we talking about the gasket, part # 8 on the fiche?
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Yep!

It happened twice to me. The dealer put new bearings and seals and 40 miles later most of the oil was gone again. I noticed black stuff in the snow under the running board when I stopped to get lunch. I Filled it back up and went back. Lucky I was close to a Auto Shop. In the parking lot I took all the covers off to clean up the oil that had leaked and found it to be coming from the gasket and it was leaking from a different place. They didn't have anymore gaskets so they used RTV and I rode it the next day 250 miles to the bars. No leaks!

It is presently at my local dealer waiting for parts.

-Moose
 
I posted this on another thread.

My brothers Attak chain-case blew due to poor venting of the dipstick cap. Suction builds up in the chain case which sucks the chain-case seal inward. The chain-case oil then is able to leak out and ultimately without oil heat builds, the chain and other components inside don't last very long.

This year, it seems there has been a bunch of bad chain-case dip stick caps that don't vent properly.

It is an easy fix. Just don't destroy the integrity of the dipstick cap, or you will start to blow oil out the cap.

Here is the explanation, and fix procedures: Just make sure there is a clear passage for air in the vertical vent grooves:

Take the chain-case dip stick out. Look at the chain-case rubber dip stick cap. On the inside of the cap there are vertical rectangular grooves cut into the beveled rubber rings to vent air.

The rectangular grooves are cut into the rubber rings on opposite sides to prevent oil from blowing out however, allows air to vent.

The rubber grooves can be widened slightly by carefully using a sharp knife, razor blade, or dremel tool. Slightly widen the vertical air vent grooves only, or you will start blowing chain-case oil through the dipstick cap.

The asymmetrical design of the beveled rubber rings keeps the oil from escaping out the air vent grooves.

Proper air venting will prevent suction within the chain-case, thus keeping the chain-case seal intact.

Chain-case oil will not leak around the chain-case seal which initially causes the failure. Heat builds and then the flailing chain starts to come apart etc, etc...

Once you take a look at the inside of the dipstick cap you'll see what I am trying to describe.

The rectangular grooves on my brothers cap looked narrow and almost closed.

Since widening the grooves we have ridden nearly 1,500 miles without any other problems.

Chain-case repair was under warranty. Make your dealers work for you.

Appears like a defective mold or machine cutting tool went bad during the rubber cap manfacturing process.

Hope this helps! ;)!
 
hondo said:
I posted this on another thread.

My brothers Attak chain-case blew due to poor venting of the dipstick cap. Suction builds up in the chain case which sucks the chain-case seal inward. The chain-case oil then is able to leak out and ultimately without oil heat builds, the chain and other components inside don't last very long.

This year, it seems there has been a bunch of bad chain-case dip stick caps that don't vent properly.

It is an easy fix. Just don't destroy the integrity of the dipstick cap, or you will start to blow oil out the cap.

Here is the explanation, and fix procedures: Just make sure there is a clear passage for air in the vertical vent grooves:

Take the chain-case dip stick out. Look at the chain-case rubber dip stick cap. On the inside of the cap there are vertical rectangular grooves cut into the beveled rubber rings to vent air.

The rectangular grooves are cut into the rubber rings on opposite sides to prevent oil from blowing out however, allows air to vent.

The rubber grooves can be widened slightly by carefully using a sharp knife, razor blade, or dremel tool. Slightly widen the vertical air vent grooves only, or you will start blowing chain-case oil through the dipstick cap.

The asymmetrical design of the beveled rubber rings keeps the oil from escaping out the air vent grooves.

Proper air venting will prevent suction within the chain-case, thus keeping the chain-case seal intact.

Chain-case oil will not leak around the chain-case seal which initially causes the failure. Heat builds and then the flailing chain starts to come apart etc, etc...

Once you take a look at the inside of the dipstick cap you'll see what I am trying to describe.

The rectangular grooves on my brothers cap looked narrow and almost closed.

Appears like a defective mold or machine cutting tool went bad during the rubber cap manfacturing process.

Hope this helps! ;)!
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Anyway you can take a picture?

Thanks,

Moose
 
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