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BLUEBALLER · Expert Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 423

For those that haven't done the front end mod yet, DO IT!!! Reaper and I put on a few miles today and both of us were happy with the outcome of shaving 2.5mm off the top balljoint. Trail conditions were very good, about 2-3" of fresh powder and the front end was VERY responsive and controllable through the twisty sections. After shimming my Outlaws (3/8" under the whole width of the rubber mount), the skis were working awesome. no darting, no side to side pitching, and with the soft snow, no inside ski lift. I will wait till I get on hard packed trails again to see if this setup really is the cats azz, but today, I was really impressed.

A BIG thank you to IKE for giving me the heads up to this MOD!! Rock On

Anyone else see the same results??

glmf · Extreme Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 52 Location: Maine

That is good to hear, as mine will be in the lathe tomorrow, and yes thanks to IKE for the info

Fasttoys · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject:

so what is the mod. kinda in the dark here

any pictures?

cameljockey · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject:

please fully explain the mod and add some pics, thanks.

2008 Nytro RTX · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject:

Agreed,Please help!

BLUEBALLER · Expert Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 423

Last week, there was a post about modifying the upper balljoints. Basically machine them down 2.5mm(0.1") and give your spindles a negative camber. I think they did it to the 09's, so just throw yours in the lathe and machine 'em down. It you don't like it you could always shim it back.

this is where it needs to be taken down.

Fasttoys · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject:

ill be the retard here and say what is this fixing or changing? or what is this helping

towerrigger · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject:

Well, on the Nytro, when you reach 60-70 mph on hard pack trail the sled will dart uncontrolably. I would describe it a lot like a head shake on a motorcycle. Everyone seems to have different experiences, but this is mine. I will be visiting a lathe soon. Thanks Ike!

bagadonitz · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:45 am Post subject:

rfabro · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:53 am Post subject:

BLUEBALLER · Expert Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 423

Reaper · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:12 am Post subject:

It makes the steering less agreessive and I was extremly pleased with the results. Pitching the stock ski's for doo pilots and the negative camber mod made the front end soooooo nice now ! All the confidence in the world to go fast !

RSD · Extreme Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 90 Location: N of 49

Isn't it all the play (slop) in the front end that's causing most of the problems? or have you guys fixed that?

Fasttoys · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:27 am Post subject:

so if this is a good mod how come yamaha hasnt come out with this fix yet ? JW oh and wouldnt this give the ski a diff angle, could cause excessive wear?

Reaper · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:09 am Post subject:

Look at the camber tilt on the pictures of the XTX, bingo. It works fantastic ! The front is so nice now, predictable, stable, not twitchy anymore.