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Alatalo

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What is up with the MT9 ski and Yamaha's website...?
I just received a pair to test and I wanted to check out some carbide options.
But skis as well as carbides are nowhere to be found on the website.
Are they no longer for sale, or what is up...?
 
More about the MT9 ski,

I was hoping to be able to offer a test report after today's ride, but for now all I can offer is a mounting report. And the only possible mounting report is - unless you absolutely love to modify or fabricate your own carbides - stay away from this shite...!
Do not get me wrong. The skis themselves are massively wide but still really light and the fit and finish is great. However, the set of skis that I received from my local dealer was delivered with a package of GYT-R carbides manufactured by Woody's. I have got some less than good quality experiences of Woody's carbides since something like fifteen years ago and it is obvious that their quality has not improved since then. As soon as I opened the package, I found out that the studs were pointing in all kinds of directions but straight, making it more or less impossible to get them all into the mounting holes in the skis. After some "correction work" and happy to finally get all studs into the mounting holes, I found out that the most forward stud is delivered with incorrect thread length / base length since it bottoms out long before it pulls the carbide host bar against the bottom of the ski...
Since I am no fan of riding sleds with loose, rattling-around carbides - especially not at the front of the ski - I decided to leave them out of today's ride. I will give it a go later this week and try to finish whatever Woody's did not finish. Hopefully I can offer a test report during the weekend.
 
It sounds like these skis had been rushed to market, eg. Carbides were impossible to find at launch.
 
I agree...The skis ARE huge. I picked up a set at my local dealer and they are very light for the size. I never had much time to check them out or ask questions.
Are these skis hollow or solid? If hollow how durable do you think they are?
A review on the trail use would be nice as well.
Looking forward to yours reviews
 
Do a search~they have been tried with bad results. They are hollow which is a big problem when they get a hole in them and freeze up. Peter (Roest) tested them and posted results I believe in the ski section. Poleclimber also had a set but i dont think ever tried them because of carbides being back ordered.
 
bottlerocket said:
Do a search~they have been tried with bad results. They are hollow which is a big problem when they get a hole in them and freeze up. Peter (Roest) tested them and posted results I believe in the ski section. Poleclimber also had a set but i dont think ever tried them because of carbides being back ordered.
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Yea we had a set at the shop last winter but carbides never showed up. Was gonna try em this year but I heard so many bad things I decided not to. We ended up selling the pair we had.
 
So far not so good for the reviews on the m9.
What would you recommend in a ski that would be good in the pow and get rid of some of nytros twitchiness on the trail.
 
bottlerocket said:
Do a search~they have been tried with bad results. They are hollow which is a big problem when they get a hole in them and freeze up. Peter (Roest) tested them and posted results I believe in the ski section. Poleclimber also had a set but i dont think ever tried them because of carbides being back ordered.
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Here's what we think of them. Look at page 4.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... hlight=mt9
 
Roest, I did read your report but still decided to test them, especially since my MTX SE will be built mainly for maximized floatation in flat areas full of bushes and trees (your report regarding floatation sounds promising but your report regarding turning and carving might be an issue, I will know within soon...).

Anyway, after modifying the front studs of the GYT-R / Woody's carbides, the MT9's are now in my MTX SE waiting for a test ride. I put them on the scale just to get a weight comparison versus the stock ski:
The stockers with stock carbides are 6.88 kilograms (15.17 lbs) / pair.
The MT9's with GYT-R / Woody's carbides are 6.08 kilograms (13.40 lbs) / pair.
Thus a weight saving at 0.8 kilograms (1.77 lbs) for a pair.
 
It will be interesting to see what you think of them. Their bad manners when counter steering in deep powder are what I remember vividly. Be sure to take the stockers along so you can compare them back to back.
 
Short test report after a short test ride in really soft fluff,

Honestly, I did not notice much of a difference in either floatation or carving ability. If anything, they re-directed the snow spray from the hood to my face (...!) and they dived a little bit less when shutting the throttle off over a crest. My impressions might be influenced by the extremely soft snow conditions we have or because this was not a clear back-to-back test versus the stockers. However, I did notice about one of the things you mentioned regarding slow speed turning - they do want to push forward when turning at extremely low speeds. I can see this becoming an issue when trying to make tight turns in the woods.

More to come...
 

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i just got back from my first trip in the steep and deep with these skis. bought them last year but didnt use them because carbides werent available. i built my own and headed west. i am not impressed with them at all. they float good and thats were it ends. handling was terrible. darted like crazy on the trail (probly partly do to with the home built carbides) counter steering was almost useless. crossed a hill with some small rocks sticking out and they shredded the skis. another thing i noticed is the warmer the snow got the harder the skis pulled and it was very noticable. everything ROEST said in his review was accurate.
im trying to find some simmons gen III's anyone know where to get some at a good price?
 
More feedback after three rides:

1. They do float better than the standard ski, which is no surprise when considering the width. As I said before, this is clearly noticeable if you shut the throttle across a crest or a drift - they simply dive less.
2. Carving and long high-speed turns becomes more heavy to perform. Like Roest said before, you have to put more of an effort in to keep the sled carving and not fall back down.
3. My biggest concern - tight slow-speed turns becomes more or less impossible with these skis...! They push forward like no other ski I have tried (I would say they are worse than the Yamaha shortie ski on a soft trail, which I thought was impossible...). Thís ski is certainly not a good choice for riders going slow between trees...
4. These skis are hollow and after three rides both skis are full of water even though I can see no holes, cracks or any kind of damage. Simply put, I have got no idea where they are leaking but there is water slushing around inside both skis...

I am back on the stockers for now and I will test my beloved SLP PP's in a weekend or two.
 
I had interest in these last year and Peter said no way save your money. Thanks for the feedback Alatalo.
 
I heard that the guy who designed these skis is currently panhandling at the same intersection where Ted Williams was discovered.
 
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