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Super or Turbo

newfieNytro

newfieNytro

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2013 Yamaha Nytro xtx 1.75
Hey everyone,

I know there is alot of information on here about this topic and I've read alot and i think I'm more confused then ever. lol I want to add some HP to my 2013 Nytro xtx 1.75, and i don't know which way to go. Ive read alot of reviews on both boost options but its alot of back and forth and I'm finding it hard to figure out whats best for me, so I'm hoping some people here can point me in the right direction. First of all I ride in Newfoundland Canada so i will not need a high elevation kit, i will never be over 6,000ft, It has to run on pump gas 91, the most important factor is reliability, I am not interested in alot of wrenching, If I go to my cabin for a night i want to know the sled is going to go in the morning to bring me home. I do some trail riding, I like to play in the powder and climb the hills. If possible i dont take the beatin paths and rather go through the trees and over the hills, but still want to go for that sunday ride with my dad and his buddies. So i'm looking for a 180hp kit and wondering weather the MPI supercharger, or McXpress turbo or other turbo models would work best for me. I have no experience with any kind of boost so just wondering if someone can help me out, Thanks alot guys
 

I think you will be happier with the mcxpress 190hp turbo. It helps balance the weight on nytro.
The supercharger will add more weight up front, harder on fuel than a turbo as well.
The mcx 190 kit is on my wish list.
 
Thats exactly why i made this post, i was not planning on buying a boost kit till the summer but with that supercharger for sale now i was thinking about buying it. I havent talked to my dealer yet about a turbo kit, but i have asked about installing a supercharger and they said they've done a few, so i want to make sure the install is done correctly. and i know you get what you pay for but it seems like the superchargers are a better deal, and with a used one still in the box for sale around me i am considering the supercharger.
 
I went with a mcx turbo on my apex this year I trail ride it as much as I do with my stock apex its still reliable ,not to mention fast lol but keep in mind the install and setup is just as important as what kit you buy I know outdoors in Gander has done some vipers this year good luck on what ever you choose
 
I have the MPI supercharger on my '09 Nytro XTX, and have put over 8,000 hard flatlander miles on it with the s/c with absolute 100% reliability. It will not leave you stranded, period. The only issue I had was a few weeks ago when the s/c belt blew, but I had never even inspected it so shame on me! After 8,000 miles and 4 seasons I probably should have changed it! It's a $40 part. Even with the blown belt the sled ran on its own power and got me where I needed to go. I guess not many people put that many miles on supercharger. It has crazy power the second you hit the throttle, and runs on pump gas. No turbo lag. My buddy learned this the hard way when he attempted to put my sled on his trailer - he now has a ski hole through the front of his trailer!

The guys at MPI said they aren't making the s/c anymore as fewer Nytros are sold, so once they're gone they're gone. Maybe you can work a good price with them. Hope this helps.
 
The install on either is the most important thing.
super- will get worse fuel mileage, that is the worst thing about them with the already small tank on the nytro.
I went super because of the instant boost as I trail ride and the trails around home are pretty twisty (I don't think you'd ever notice the lag unless you rode them back to back).

When the turbo comes on you just feel the pull way more than a super. They make very different power. If you ever want to go for max hp the turbo has the advantage.
They will both be fun no matter what.

I would plan on 100-150 dollars a year for oil and filter for the super as it's on it's own oiling system.
Turbo is lubed by engine oil.
 
Yamaporn said:
I have the MPI supercharger on my '09 Nytro XTX, and have put over 8,000 hard flatlander miles on it with the s/c with absolute 100% reliability. It will not leave you stranded, period. The only issue I had was a few weeks ago when the s/c belt blew, but I had never even inspected it so shame on me! After 8,000 miles and 4 seasons I probably should have changed it! It's a $40 part. Even with the blown belt the sled ran on its own power and got me where I needed to go. I guess not many people put that many miles on supercharger. It has crazy power the second you hit the throttle, and runs on pump gas. No turbo lag. My buddy learned this the hard way when he attempted to put my sled on his trailer - he now has a ski hole through the front of his trailer!

The guys at MPI said they aren't making the s/c anymore as fewer Nytros are sold, so once they're gone they're gone. Maybe you can work a good price with them. Hope this helps.
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It would be nice if MPI could figure out a way to get us a supercharger option for the viper. I know it will never happen so I will just have to keep my sc nytro. Good to hear you've had 8000 problem free miles.
 
NeverEnuf said:
It would be nice if MPI could figure out a way to get us a supercharger option for the viper. I know it will never happen so I will just have to keep my sc nytro. Good to hear you've had 8000 problem free miles.
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Totally agree. I'd much rather have a s/c viper than the turbo. I just like the immediate pull. My buddy has a Cat 1100 turbo and I kill him off the line. In a really long run (1/3 mile) he takes me but not on shorter runs.
 
I ride with three of them and they all have tunes plus other goodies to keep the turbo spooled. If you get off my nytro on to one of them you know what turbo lag feels like.
 
Thanks for all the help guys. Do a trail tank fit with the supercharger kit. To give you a better range on a tank of gas??? Also did the supercharger kit change or is it the same kit they sold in 2008 ???
 
Trail tank fits, no problem, I have one on mine. I have 4,000 trouble free miles on mine. MPG will suffer a little, but not to much. I usually will pull 12 MPG if I'm not getting to crazy with it. I'm only getting 15-16 with my Apex's
I would recommend the S/C, and I think it is a little easier install. No matter what way you get Boost, the fuel management system is the whole key to your success. Since I went to the Power Commander 5 with auto tune. Sled runs much more consistent than when I had the Gems system and always had to be adjusting it. just my 2 cents
 
Turbo is more efficient, makes more power per LB boost.
Gets better milage.
Does not take more bettery to turn over. (could be a problem when cold)
Parts much more readily available should you ever need any.
Much easier to control or change boost if you wan't.

Only advantage a super has is throttle response.

There's a reason no new super kit's are being built!
 
I have both supercharged and turbo'd nytros. Taking into consideration with what the OP wants.................I agree with yamaporn, Super it is...

I also Know of a couple supercharger kits that are being sold for $2000 USD. Brand new in box from yamaha.
 
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