I sold my Nytro to be on an Apex. Rode the A/C long enough to know I didn't want one. My knees beat off the cowl, it rode like a lumberwagon and felt like it was assembled by 3rd graders. I ride groomed trails and that sled felt very high centered at speed. I love my Apex , it's great for high speed trail riding. Not everyone wants to sit( or STAND ) like a Ricky racer wannabe or deal with bent tunnels, rails and parts falling off. I had CATS for years, 15 in 17 years and if I want another one I'll buy it not some bastard child between the two companies. NO INTEREST