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After 8 years my Viper MTX 141" was just getting to the point it's either trading time or soon I'd need to start investing money into it. It was a good sled, but I always wanted something a bit easier to handle for Black Hills trails and off trail. I started on Cat and rode them until I had 3...
The fact is there was no product pipeline after the 2017 Sidewinder launched. What happened about 4 months after the new Sidewinder showed up in dealerships? Arctic Cat Inc. was purchased by Textron January 25, 2017. It was game over at that point for Yamaha since all the work they did on the...
There was no new in-house chassis development after the 2008 Nytro. The existing Japanese stuff saw a few improvements, but work stopped on future development. The Arctic Cat joint venture was at first just supposed to an alternative offering to their in-house models, but later it was all they...
Actually the whole decision to exit the snowmobile business was a lot simpler decision for them, but they are not going to put the truth into a press release. They no longer have a North American engineering team in place after shutting down all R&D in mid 2021. They no longer have any...
Yamaha corporate would have closed up the snowmobile division after the 2024 model year if there wasn't a contract with Cat still in place they needed to finish out. There will be little to no effort put into the 2025 model year.
This. It'll just be a few Sidewinder models and maybe one Viper. I expect the re-badged 2 strokes and kids sleds to be gone. Specs will be identical to the 2024 with some "final edition" color and graphics treatments. You can dream all you want, but they are not going to invest one more penny...
Parts will probably be available for years to come. You might have to source some things through Cat and do eBay searches, but a lot of parts will be out there. This is a different situation then if a company simply went out of business completely.
The more I think about it the more it makes sense for Cat to source their 4 stroke engines from their parent company. Yeah I’d say considering Ski-doo, Polaris and now Cat all can source 4 strokes internally it makes no sense to buy engines from Yamaha. It’s a lot easier to engineer an engine...
Oh so that’s you? lol I‘m actually surprised they gave that much detail in an answer on Facebook to be honest. Now that might only mean until 2025, but it was something. It also confirms Jaret pretty much runs everything including Facebook because some low level social media manager wouldn’t...
I would agree. Cat will be focused on getting a bigger engine in the Catalyst for 2025. Anything 4 stoke will be carryover Cat-Yamaha stuff. Cat will likely have a new 4 stroke offering in 2026. What that will be? Who knows. We could speculate all day long unless we are sitting in the corporate...
I don't know if the 998 is really done in snowmobiles after 2025. It's done in Yamaha branded snowmobiles, but I'd be surprised if Cat doesn't try and keep the engine supply agreement in force. It gives them something in the 4 stroke market that Ski-doo and Polaris doesn't have. Even Yamaha...
Well it sounds like if Cat wants the engines Yamaha will still supply them. How that looks after 2025 is anyone’s guess, but it wouldn’t shock me to see Cat offer Thundercats, 9000 and 7000 series sleds after 2025. I mean there will definitely be a market for people that still want these (or...
That’s probably part of it as well with the new Catalyst coming. Once they offer a full line of Catalyst models they likely will want their whole production line dedicated to their own product. Cat is in a different place today with Textron as their owner then they were in 2014 as an independent...
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