Absolutly incredible skis. These flat out rock! Rode Sunday 2/17 with these on my '08 Apex Gt Ltx and blew away a buddy of mine on his '07 Apex Gt. This guy is a much more agressive rider than I am and he could not keep up with me in the twisties. Talk about an ego boost. The best part was I never even felt on the edge no less out of control. I went with the 7.5" Shaper bar, but I would probably choose the 6" next time. I was told I didn't need that much carbide, but I'm stubborn. People may say they are pricey, but the cost far less then a front end rebuild after you go into the woods. Best ride yet on my new Yami!